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I think an open source election system is needed for the next one, maybe start working on that if you have free time.

@minnow
Look into ThreeBallot and systems based off it.

The issue with any voting system is who distributes the ballots.

Hate to inform you, but the USA is GONE. It isn't coming back, bar mass civil disobedience.

@fluxdev I think open source blockchain based election system could help the situation. If you can verify your vote is counted, change it on the fly and see the count change, with your identifier on the public list. May instill some confidence back.

@minnow
Blockchain for voting is a silly idea.

The issue is still who gets to vote. How do you prevent Sybil from voting many times?

If the State controls the ballots, they control the vote. It is that simple.

You now have lunatics running the asylum. Do you think they're going to play fair ever again?

@fluxdev @minnow
A big problem with blockchain voting is the average citizen being responsible for their private key.

These people enter their bank passwords into php links that are emailed to them.

@fluxdev You are right, so for now the only options left are either a self-proclaimed King Ruler, or Rogue Tribes until faith in a voting system can be forged. This is going to take a while...

@minnow
The solution is to simply opt-out. Use black markets whenever possible. Detach your bitcoin from your identity. Don't declare your full earnings and avoid paying all taxes you can avoid. The system can only operate on a supply of stealing people's money - this is why is an absolute necessity to fix anything.

@minnow @fluxdev if we just has a public election where names and votes were public, us all being citizens and all, we could easily verify the count and our vote whenever we want. We all publicly talk about who or what we want, and we should, why not put our money where our mouth is?

@minnow @fluxdev plus the crooks counting the vote get to see your name and who you vote for anyway.

@Zachary_BTC @minnow
Still doesn't solve the problem of Sybil. You can verify your own vote, but you can't verify that a real person exists for every other vote.

@fluxdev @minnow right, this would still be up to whoever is registering you, most likely the government.

@Zachary_BTC @minnow And therein is the deception of democracy. It is a theatre where two groups get to fight between themselves about micromanaging your life, but the things that matter, like the money, are controlled by the non-elected central banks, which are private and often the shareholders are not fully known.

The system was always rigged from the start. You only ever had the option to vote for the lesser of two evils.

@fluxdev @minnow this is partially true. We have a great system, it's just that it was infiltrated and they stole our ability to create money and have been killing and stealing election ever since. If we just rebooted the constitution and flushed the criminals and started over it would be great again. We need to have a fair election system though. Making it public would solve it with little tech. Maybe we could have like addresses we register with the government like when you get a license.

@fluxdev @Zachary_BTC Here's hoping for some betterment. Smarter people than me will come up with something, chaos and order will continue to dance.

@fluxdev @Zachary_BTC @minnow as an Indian under the Indian act... I wholeheartedly witness this wholesale on my people and agree wholeheartedly without question! Sovereignty must be exercised, a choice and path for the individual and those like minded - we called them "the good mind"

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