How can I follow a user on another instance, if their instance's web interface doesn't have a follow button? :/

Did you try putting in their name in your search box? It maybe comes up with a follow button next to the results.

@alanturing Yeah, it showed nothing. :(

@[email protected] to be specific

(No, my instance does not block GAB, so that shouldn't be an issue)

@lukedashjr @alanturing Gab defederated itself. We can't work with them anymore.

@verretor @alanturing @JTR21 So in other words, GAB are hypocrites who got mad at others blocking them, but then they went and blocked literally everyone else...

Sigh. Are there any other reliable non-Bitcoin non-censoring servers I can recommend to people?

@verretor @lukedashjr @alanturing @JTR21 I'm not sure you really want 0% censorship. If someone were to start promoting shitcoin scams on, posting every minute of the day, would you not moderate that?

There are plenty of instances that don't censor much, and with Mastodon you can also migrate your account between instances without losing your social graph, in case you're unhappy on the one you chose first.

Here's a list of some popular instances:

@raucao @verretor @alanturing @JTR21 joinmastodon only lists servers that censor reasonable things, last I checked

@lukedashjr @verretor @alanturing @JTR21 That may be (mostly) true. But I think e.g. isn't one of them and still listed there as the #1 tech-related instance.

@raucao @verretor @alanturing @JTR21 "You must be...a S.T.E.M. student or professional to join our server." kinda excludes a lot of people unfortunately.

Besides, their rules indicate they do in fact censor reasonable things too. ("homophobic speech will not be tolerated" plus a vague condemnation of "hate speech")

@lukedashjr @raucao @verretor @alanturing

After the Reddit debacle, it is important to never join a service with an ambiguous set of rules.

"Homophobic" is not clearly defined, nor is "hate speech." That means: we remove whatever contradicts our personal narrative.

Fuck these people. They're liars.

@amerika @alanturing @lukedashjr @verretor They are not liars. You just disagree with them on what you find reasonable. Every community has its limits, including your "free speech extremist" instance.


@raucao @amerika @alanturing @verretor What is unreasonable about a blanket rejection of all non-procreative sexual activity? (I'm not asking if or why you don't agree, I'm asking where it is lacking in *reason*)

@kekcoin @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing @verretor

I agree. However, that doesn't mean that others want to encounter it.

Gay people need gay spaces.

Heterosexuals are innately repulsed by homosexual behavior, so we need our own spaces.

DADT is the best it gets. "Keep bedroom matters, in the bedroom."

@amerika @alanturing @kekcoin @lukedashjr @verretor @raucao

I'd understand that take if people were posting porn all the time. The right approach would be to block these accounts or potentially for them to add content warnings.

But even without that: seeing a dick or boobs (whatever doesn't float your boat) from time to time won't traumatize an otherwise mentally stable adult.

@sebx2a @amerika @alanturing @kekcoin @verretor @raucao There is damage other than trauma. Look at divorce rates.

It would also be nice if some day the internet was child-safe.

@amerika @alanturing @kekcoin @lukedashjr @verretor @raucao
"Heterosexuals are innately repulsed by homosexual behavior, so we need our own spaces."
🤦‍♀️ oh boy...
you need to get out more. meet more people. that statement is very false.

@pox @alanturing @kekcoin @lukedashjr @verretor @raucao

I've been around awhile. It's consistently true. We don't like hearing about men sucking each other off, fisting each other to the elbow, or sodomizing each other. We associate gay sex with poo and AIDS.

But, we don't hold it against you as long as we don't have to notice it.

@amerika @alanturing @lukedashjr @pox @verretor @raucao I'm sure your sample set is completely unbiased and your sample size representative.

@kekcoin @alanturing @lukedashjr @pox @verretor @raucao

You've just admitted you have no idea who I am or what my experience is, or where I have lived, so I accept your concession.

@lukedashjr @alanturing @verretor I think that's the wrong question. The question is what your community finds reasonable in regards to you encroaching on others' freedoms, like their right to choose sexual partners. If you are not tolerant of their sexuality, then why should they be tolerant of your opinion on it?

@lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing @verretor Exactly, live and let live. I just hope other more conservative minded folks will still live by that mantra once they become dominant again. While I can live with their disapproval I really don't fancy being prosecuted or killed for liking guys 😩

@sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing @verretor That's what the left wing Big Tech censorship brigade morons don't get. Setting the precedent for what is acceptable for whenever a right wing, extreme right wing leader gets into power again. This strategy only works if you establish a one party state (which it seems they are trying to do)

@michaelfolkson @sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing @verretor They're so impatient that they're going for this strategy prior to gun confiscation.

@pete @michaelfolkson @sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing @verretor Yamamoto’s quote about a “rifle behind every blade of grass” might be apocryphal, but wtf do they think is going to happen?

@eatoutfrom5lbs @michaelfolkson @sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing @verretor Realistically? An ineffective attempt at confiscation that gets them re-elected and helps divert a bunch of money to their buddies in the surveillance business.

@pete @eatoutfrom5lbs @michaelfolkson @sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing Like Trudeau's law that prevents us from buying some guns.

Technically, he's not confiscating guns.

@verretor @eatoutfrom5lbs @michaelfolkson @sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing Actually, the Biden proposals _are_ gun confiscation: they want to tax&register guns, and thus not paying - or not registering - can result in confiscation. Obvs, the registration will also enable confiscation.

@michaelfolkson @verretor @eatoutfrom5lbs @sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing The interesting thing is its at a time when guns in the US simultaneously have the most support in legal terms in quite awhile.

@michaelfolkson @pete @verretor @eatoutfrom5lbs @sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing

Good thing he didn't win. Trump won by a landslide until the day after. Why do you think they are panicking and trying for the 25th/impeachment when he supposedly has just days left? The left hasn't accomplished anything and sudden;y they move this quickly?

@michaelfolkson @pete @verretor @eatoutfrom5lbs @sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing

Also, why didn't they count the mail in ballots first? Total incompetence? Or did they need to know how many they needed to turn in? Also, how many counties reported over 100% voter turn out? How many had over 200%? They won't get away with this.

@Zachary_BTC @pete @verretor @eatoutfrom5lbs @sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing Inauguration in a week. Looks like they got away with it. Not going to choose to investigate an election that put them in power post inauguration.

@Zachary_BTC @pete @verretor @eatoutfrom5lbs @sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing I won't be shocked. But seems to me only thing that can stop a Biden inauguration now is military intervention. And regardless of whose side you are on (I lean towards Trump), military interventions in elections seems to me like a failed state. I'm just staggered Supreme Court refused to look at it. It is a failure of democracy and a failure of the legal system.

@michaelfolkson @pete @verretor @eatoutfrom5lbs @sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing

Well, Military intervention is OK if they see we were infiltrated by China and they literally stole the election.

@Zachary_BTC @pete @verretor @eatoutfrom5lbs @sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing If China hacked the vote counting software then you could argue that is an act of war. But anything short of that should be resolved in the courts.

@michaelfolkson @pete @verretor @eatoutfrom5lbs @sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing

Also printed ballots. Also released a virus that prompted insecure vote by mail that was the major source of fraud. Yea, the voting machines were rigged but it was such a landslide they needed the mail in ballots that took weeks to count because apparently everyone mailed them in late? BS, they should have been counted first. Also, people were coordinating this across the battle ground states.

@Zachary_BTC @pete @verretor @eatoutfrom5lbs @sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing Anything that required humans on the ground in the US (e.g. movement of paper ballots) should be resolved in the courts first before getting the military involved. Only airspace attacks or cyberattacks on election go straight to the military. No one brought a case to the Supreme Court alleging anything other than states not following constitutional guidelines.

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@Zachary_BTC @michaelfolkson @pete @verretor @eatoutfrom5lbs @sebx2a @raucao @alanturing Why are people saying China? I heard during the Georgia runoffs, they traced it and ended up at a Vatican-run satellite...?

@lukedashjr @michaelfolkson @pete @verretor @eatoutfrom5lbs @sebx2a @raucao @alanturing

Well, china has everything to lose if Trump is re-elected. He's foiling the controlled decline of America and rise of China. We know they have bought our politicians and control hollywood and our media. We know they printed some if not all of the fake ballots. They have the most to gain from a Biden presidency.

@Zachary_BTC @michaelfolkson @pete @verretor @eatoutfrom5lbs @sebx2a @raucao @alanturing They did get away with it, as far as I can tell.

It's okay. Democracy isn't essential. And America is overdue for a governmental collapse anyway - it's time to move on.

@pete @verretor @eatoutfrom5lbs @michaelfolkson @sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing yes but youre right @pete in your previous toot, they will use it as a tool to get re-elected, but they know they are not going to confiscate much (if anything). In any case they can slowly start tightening guns an ammo controls, like @verretor implied with canada example. In Venezuela was a lot simpler... the gov just called for everyone to surrender their guns amd people did it.

@pete @verretor @eatoutfrom5lbs @michaelfolkson @sebx2a @raucao @alanturing I'm not registering anything.

It's funny how people disobey reasonable mask mandates, but obey unreasonable concealed-carry licensing requirements...

Hopefully any attempt to force registration will get a backlash of CCW disobedience.

@pete @michaelfolkson @sebx2a @raucao @alanturing @verretor Gun confiscation is impossible. They don't know what guns exist, or who has them. And now we have the ability to 3D print guns - hopefully abusive governments that have already confiscated will lose control soon too.

@michaelfolkson @pete @sebx2a @raucao @alanturing @verretor No, it isn't. Gun ownership and carrying is a fundamental human right, which government has no authority to criminalise. Attempts to do so, are no different from a random mugger disarming you by force.

@lukedashjr @pete @sebx2a @raucao @alanturing @verretor I'm speaking from the UK where we don't have that fundamental human right. I am not discussing its ethics, just whether it is legally possible.

@MrHodl @michaelfolkson @pete @sebx2a @raucao @alanturing @verretor All legitimate authority comes from God, no matter the circumstances under which it came about.

Denying people their right to own guns, is never part of that legitimate authority.

@michaelfolkson @pete @sebx2a @raucao @alanturing @verretor Fundamental human rights, including this one, are UNIVERSAL.

The UK simply oppresses you. They have no legitimate authority to deny you your right to keep and bear a gun.

@lukedashjr @pete @michaelfolkson @sebx2a @raucao @alanturing @verretor

When DC tries to confiscate guns there will always be states that can legally override that unconstitutional law. Might have to move to those states.

@sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing @verretor

We can all coexist as long nobody is trying to seek power to top the other side. But it is an unstable equilibrium.

@PunaneMarker @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing @verretor It might not always be unstable if the cost of suppression rises significantly, e.g. because defensive weapons hugely outperform offensive ones in cost/effectiveness.

I'm dreaming of a future where even small communities have the means to resist larger powers because it's too costly to breach their perimeters. I think this option alone will make people realize it's better to cooperate than dominating each other.

@sebx2a @PunaneMarker @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing
"The worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities."

— Sun-Tzu, The Art of War

@sebx2a @PunaneMarker @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing @verretor I think we are already here, the defensive tech just isn’t widely spread yet. Why invade a country or city state or even home if you can’t easily steal my stored wealth. Sure you can harass and threaten and even kill me, but if I can deny you my wealth because of my superior defense the rules of the game have changed...

@lukedashjr @raucao @amerika @alanturing @verretor It's unreasonable because it's against what happens in nature. Many animals exhibit homosexual behaviour and humans (and other animals) have sex for non-procreative reasons (i.e. Fun), whether that's with the same or a different gender.

@Bitcoinlabrador @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing @verretor

Homosexuality definitely occurs in nature, although less than liberal sources report.

It is also natural for heterosexuals to be repulsed by it.

Therefore, homosexuals -- a numerical minority -- need to keep it quiet and out of sight, just like other groups of sexual non-conformists (swingers, scat, fisting, necrocannibalism).

That means no beating up "fags," but also no Gay Pride parades.

@amerika @alanturing @lukedashjr @verretor @raucao Why can't people have parades? Beating up a gay person is a breach of natural law, having a parade isn't.

@Bitcoinlabrador @alanturing @lukedashjr @verretor @raucao

We don't want swingers parades either.

Keep your non-standard sexuality quiet. That's the fair and decent thing to do.

We do the same, and tolerate you, in exchange.

That's how mature, sane and rational people live.
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