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How can I follow a user on another instance, if their instance's web interface doesn't have a follow button? :/

(Would prefer to be able to browser toots of users on other instances via my own instance's web interface too...)

@lukedashjr I am following users on other instances from here, they will come up in a search.

@TallTim Not really when we can't deploy code changes...

@TallTim He said he's pretty much outsourced everything related to bitcoinhackers at this point (incl hosting & maintenance)

@lukedashjr
Did you try putting in their name in your search box? It maybe comes up with a follow button next to the results.

@alanturing Yeah, it showed nothing. :(

@[email protected] to be specific

(No, my instance does not block GAB, so that shouldn't be an issue)

@lukedashjr

Yeah, I got nothing for that account either.

If I just do a gab.com search, several accounts from there come up to can be added.

@lukedashjr @alanturing I'm using the gab mastodon app and gab.com instance gets errors.

@lukedashjr @alanturing Gab defederated itself. We can't work with them anymore.

@verretor @alanturing @JTR21 So in other words, GAB are hypocrites who got mad at others blocking them, but then they went and blocked literally everyone else...

Sigh. Are there any other reliable non-Bitcoin non-censoring servers I can recommend to people?

@verretor @lukedashjr @alanturing @JTR21 I'm not sure you really want 0% censorship. If someone were to start promoting shitcoin scams on bitcoinhackers.org, posting every minute of the day, would you not moderate that?

There are plenty of instances that don't censor much, and with Mastodon you can also migrate your account between instances without losing your social graph, in case you're unhappy on the one you chose first.

Here's a list of some popular instances: joinmastodon.org/communities

@raucao @verretor @alanturing @JTR21 joinmastodon only lists servers that censor reasonable things, last I checked

@lukedashjr @verretor @alanturing @JTR21 That may be (mostly) true. But I think e.g. qoto.org isn't one of them and still listed there as the #1 tech-related instance.

@raucao @verretor @alanturing @JTR21 "You must be...a S.T.E.M. student or professional to join our server." kinda excludes a lot of people unfortunately.

Besides, their rules indicate they do in fact censor reasonable things too. ("homophobic speech will not be tolerated" plus a vague condemnation of "hate speech")

@lukedashjr @raucao @verretor @alanturing

After the Reddit debacle, it is important to never join a service with an ambiguous set of rules.

"Homophobic" is not clearly defined, nor is "hate speech." That means: we remove whatever contradicts our personal narrative.

Fuck these people. They're liars.

@amerika @alanturing @lukedashjr @verretor They are not liars. You just disagree with them on what you find reasonable. Every community has its limits, including your "free speech extremist" instance.

@raucao @amerika @alanturing @verretor What is unreasonable about a blanket rejection of all non-procreative sexual activity? (I'm not asking if or why you don't agree, I'm asking where it is lacking in *reason*)

@kekcoin @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing @verretor

I agree. However, that doesn't mean that others want to encounter it.

Gay people need gay spaces.

Heterosexuals are innately repulsed by homosexual behavior, so we need our own spaces.

DADT is the best it gets. "Keep bedroom matters, in the bedroom."

@amerika @alanturing @kekcoin @lukedashjr @verretor @raucao

I'd understand that take if people were posting porn all the time. The right approach would be to block these accounts or potentially for them to add content warnings.

But even without that: seeing a dick or boobs (whatever doesn't float your boat) from time to time won't traumatize an otherwise mentally stable adult.

@sebx2a @amerika @alanturing @kekcoin @verretor @raucao There is damage other than trauma. Look at divorce rates.

It would also be nice if some day the internet was child-safe.

@amerika @alanturing @kekcoin @lukedashjr @verretor @raucao
"Heterosexuals are innately repulsed by homosexual behavior, so we need our own spaces."
🤦‍♀️ oh boy...
you need to get out more. meet more people. that statement is very false.

@pox @alanturing @kekcoin @lukedashjr @verretor @raucao

I've been around awhile. It's consistently true. We don't like hearing about men sucking each other off, fisting each other to the elbow, or sodomizing each other. We associate gay sex with poo and AIDS.

But, we don't hold it against you as long as we don't have to notice it.

@amerika @alanturing @lukedashjr @pox @verretor @raucao I'm sure your sample set is completely unbiased and your sample size representative.

@kekcoin @alanturing @lukedashjr @pox @verretor @raucao

You've just admitted you have no idea who I am or what my experience is, or where I have lived, so I accept your concession.

@lukedashjr @alanturing @verretor I think that's the wrong question. The question is what your community finds reasonable in regards to you encroaching on others' freedoms, like their right to choose sexual partners. If you are not tolerant of their sexuality, then why should they be tolerant of your opinion on it?

@lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing @verretor Exactly, live and let live. I just hope other more conservative minded folks will still live by that mantra once they become dominant again. While I can live with their disapproval I really don't fancy being prosecuted or killed for liking guys 😩

@sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing @verretor That's what the left wing Big Tech censorship brigade morons don't get. Setting the precedent for what is acceptable for whenever a right wing, extreme right wing leader gets into power again. This strategy only works if you establish a one party state (which it seems they are trying to do)

@michaelfolkson @sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing @verretor They're so impatient that they're going for this strategy prior to gun confiscation.

@pete @michaelfolkson @sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing @verretor Yamamoto’s quote about a “rifle behind every blade of grass” might be apocryphal, but wtf do they think is going to happen?

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@pete @michaelfolkson @sebx2a @raucao @alanturing @verretor Gun confiscation is impossible. They don't know what guns exist, or who has them. And now we have the ability to 3D print guns - hopefully abusive governments that have already confiscated will lose control soon too.

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@sebx2a @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing @verretor

We can all coexist as long nobody is trying to seek power to top the other side. But it is an unstable equilibrium.

@PunaneMarker @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing @verretor It might not always be unstable if the cost of suppression rises significantly, e.g. because defensive weapons hugely outperform offensive ones in cost/effectiveness.

I'm dreaming of a future where even small communities have the means to resist larger powers because it's too costly to breach their perimeters. I think this option alone will make people realize it's better to cooperate than dominating each other.

@sebx2a @PunaneMarker @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing
"The worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities."

— Sun-Tzu, The Art of War

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@sebx2a @PunaneMarker @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing @verretor I think we are already here, the defensive tech just isn’t widely spread yet. Why invade a country or city state or even home if you can’t easily steal my stored wealth. Sure you can harass and threaten and even kill me, but if I can deny you my wealth because of my superior defense the rules of the game have changed...

@lukedashjr @raucao @amerika @alanturing @verretor It's unreasonable because it's against what happens in nature. Many animals exhibit homosexual behaviour and humans (and other animals) have sex for non-procreative reasons (i.e. Fun), whether that's with the same or a different gender.

@Bitcoinlabrador @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing @verretor

Homosexuality definitely occurs in nature, although less than liberal sources report.

It is also natural for heterosexuals to be repulsed by it.

Therefore, homosexuals -- a numerical minority -- need to keep it quiet and out of sight, just like other groups of sexual non-conformists (swingers, scat, fisting, necrocannibalism).

That means no beating up "fags," but also no Gay Pride parades.

@amerika @alanturing @lukedashjr @verretor @raucao Why can't people have parades? Beating up a gay person is a breach of natural law, having a parade isn't.

@Bitcoinlabrador @alanturing @lukedashjr @verretor @raucao

We don't want swingers parades either.

Keep your non-standard sexuality quiet. That's the fair and decent thing to do.

We do the same, and tolerate you, in exchange.

That's how mature, sane and rational people live.

@Bitcoinlabrador @amerika @alanturing @verretor @raucao First of all, sex should be a private matter *in general*. And have you seen what goes on at these parades???

@Bitcoinlabrador @raucao @amerika @alanturing @verretor No, animals only exhibit homosexual behaviour in unnatural circumstances (eg, lack of a mate).

Animals act on instinct. Humans aren't animals - we are supposed to act on reason.

@lukedashjr @raucao @amerika @alanturing @verretor No, that's factually incorrect. Homosexuality occurs in all kinds of circumstances and is generally very helpful (homosexual couples take on orphaned animals, for example).

@Bitcoinlabrador @lukedashjr @raucao @alanturing @verretor

...in theory.

In reality, homosexuality is how nature says, "uh oh, something went wrong here, so let's make sure it doesn't breed."
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