This is probably a dumb question, and I suspect I know the answer, but if I have a BTC node running on my in-house (on my desk) server, & I also have a self-hosted website on that same server (and lets say that site has all my personal info on it, which it wouldn't), they should both have the same IP address, right? And if so, I suspect that if one knew the IP address of the node, then they might also find the website with the same IP address & personal info, thereby connecting me to the node?

@KingWm yes, but you can hide your bitcoin node on tor network pretty easily. Another thing, self-hosting a website is rarely a good idea, but it depends on what you want to do exactly of course.
You can also make your site on zeronet, still very experimental but the idea is really cool

@Sosthene I have always heard it is bad to host your own site. I have an account with SiteGround and host several site there. However, in the spirit of Bitcoin, I want to experiment with hosting my own. I want to understand better why it is a bad idea. Bandwidth, backup data, backup power, security(?), and what else? Anyways, my sites are low traffic. I have one I can move and play with. I would rather spend money on hardware and time on knowledge that pay a hosting service.

@KingWm @Sosthene it's considered a bad idea if you're normie with no understanding of computer security. It's really not too difficult to harden a server. With all the command line stuff you have been learning you already probably have all the skills you need to do it safely and successfully.
here is a guide which will show what & how you need to do it:

@Shekelcoin @Sosthene I figured that was the case...lack of understanding. If I can learn the skills, I should be able to secure it. Backups should be easy, and fiber internet is coming to my neighborhood soon... Thanks for that excellent link! I am reading everything I can find right now on security and am keeping good notes. I will go through that one too.

@Shekelcoin @KingWm There was a misunderstanding, I thought @KingWm wanted to host a site at home on his laptop (cf the toot I answered), which seems to me a bad idea at least for uptime. Of course on a VPS it's not a bad idea at all if you know some basics!

@Sosthene @Shekelcoin Actually, I do want to host at home, but it isn't a laptop, it's a refurbished Dell desktop. (Refurbished: DELL Desktop Computer 7010 Intel Core i5 3.2 GHz 8GB 500 GB HDD)

@Sosthene @Shekelcoin I am practicing on this device, honing my skills for when I get the Power9 desktop.

@Shekelcoin Sounds interesting, but I want to learn these things myself...

@KingWm if you launch a freedom box you will teach tourself a lot, its a microcomputer like a rasp odroid or whatever and you basically make it into your home encrypted personal server...i have not done it yet, just to be frank. I am highly interested in launching one for obvious shared reasons

@Shekelcoin I just don't understand the desire to use such small devices like the PI. Is it power consumption, price, both, other things? I am not even sure those small devices can handle BTC, LN AND BTCPay, and I know many host BTCPay in the cloud. I know I can't do all the things I want with such a small device. Perhaps I should get one and dedicate it to BTC and LN only, and use a diff device to play with other stuff.

@KingWm as i understand it pis and odroids are to make it so anybody willing to kearn can use a computer with almost no discretionary income. That way children that are intelligent all over the world can learn to program and stuff

@Shekelcoin It is funny, I was wondering if I could program a PI to to like, control the lights and temperature in my chicken coop, or possibly use its wi-fi to turn on and of the lights and exhaust fan from the house.

@KingWm @Shekelcoin a Pi can handle bitcoin LN and BTCPay easy peasy as long as you don't ask him to do the heavy lifting (initial sync). It's super cheap to buy and consume nothing. But if you're planning to do a lot of things on the same device it might worth investing in something more substantial

@KingWm @Sosthene you can use an odroid which is a better version of a rasberry pi, (i may be speaking out my ass, i am not qualified to speak on highly technical shit.) But i will link this:
It's a happy coincidence that the odroid is also recommended for a freedom box. I think since an odroid is like a raspberry pi it might be spectre and meltdown secure, but again kinda ignorant on tech stuff...

@Shekelcoin @Sosthene I had looked into the Odroids several months back, but the ones I saw used an arm processor that was not immune to those attacks. I spent HOURS searching the net for single board pc's that did NOT use one of those affected processors. I am pretty sure the ONLY one was the RasPI. About that time, @lukedashjr suggested the Power9 on Twitter, and after investigating a bit, I have not considered anything else. Their blackbirds will be available soon, but still pretty $$$.

@KingWm @Sosthene @lukedashjr ok cool, thats awesome info, i haven't looked it into much more than buying my new laptop which i went with with amd because from what i read they were supposedly less susceptible. I honestly dont know how true that is, but it was an adventure getting my amd ryzen processor to work with linux. The latest kernels have been a lot better but its a bit ch trying to find a bootable distro with the laptop i have which is an amd ryzen 2500u.

@KingWm @Sosthene @lukedashjr the only issue with my amd that pisses me off is that it takes likes 3-5 hard resets every time it reboots to get manjaro working again,

@KingWm @Shekelcoin if it's up 24/7 then it should be fine. Just take care not to doxx yourself with your IP, either run your site on Tor or Zeronet 🙂

@Sosthene @Shekelcoin All this time I have spent obsessing over privacy and security. I have had this computer for a couple week now without having installed BTC exactly because I want to make sure the security and privacy is where it needs to be before I do so. I am real close to being comfortable with the security. Privacy will be what I tackle next.

@KingWm @Sosthene After seeing @Sosthene 's post about his btcpay server not having an email server setup, I realized i have the same issue with mine. I asked my vps provider how to set up an email server, these are the links he pointed me to:

I am going to setup my own email server for the first time. My siteground hosting already had it setup. My vps does not, so time to give it a go.

@Shekelcoin @KingWm cool, i used gmail bc i wanted a quick fix, but setting my own server would be much more exciting 😀

@Sosthene @Shekelcoin I must admit I am currently addicted to gmail. That one is going to be a tough one to break. I have like 20 or 30 email addresses all forwarded to one location. The UI is fabulous, I have even started using the calendar. I have 3 of the legacy "google for work" domains from back when they were free. 50 users each, all the services, custom domains, google's fabulous software, all 100% free... (except I know they sell my data). After BTC, website, BitWarden, email next.

@Sosthene I don't know what zero-net is but I will look into it. What I want to do is host everything myself and be dependent on no one, in the spirit of don't trust, verify!

@KingWm @Sosthene Zeronet is decentralized websites, that are censorship resistant/can't be taken down

@Shekelcoin @Sosthene If you run across any others, please keep them coming.

@Sosthene I want to host my own BitWarden, I want to host my own WireGuard, though I think I have finally realized that has to be on an external server to do what I want it to do, and there are/will be others. All these things I am going to experiment with. Once I am comfortable with the security on my server, and am going to get BTC and LN running, then I will start playing with the rest...

@KingWm @Sosthene you can get a cheap VPS and then harden and deploy all your own self hosted stuff like bitwarden, mastodon instance, btc & lightning node etc.

@KingWm Internet--->YourISP-->YourRouter-->Webserver/Node
The only IP is the one your ISP assigns you. Everything else is port forwarding. I guess you could use Tor or something if you wanted to obscure that with onion-routing.

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